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:You are free to nominate the image for deletion on Commons if you think it shouldn't belong there. Actually the purpose of using the image is just the opposite, i.e. to denounce such kind of incitement to violence. ([[gebruiker:Ymnes]], it was you started this new category last year. Do you agree with Espoo's argument that the image is inappropriate because it would promote violence against immigrants?) [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 15 sep 2019 14:13 (CEST)
::{{Ping|Espoo}} In according to my opinion it educates people to do good, in stead of iciting them to crime. [[Gebruiker:Ymnes|Ymnes]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ymnes|overleg]]) 15 sep 2019 18:06 (CEST)
:::I'm pretty sure it's against the rules and basic principles of the Wikimedia Foundation unless it's in connection with articles dealing with hatred and violence against migrants and together with other images showing other aspects of migration in Italy.
:::I'm pretty sure it's against the rules and basic principles of the Wikimedia Foundation unless it's in connection with articles dealing with hatred and violence against migrants and together with other images showing other aspects of migration in Italy. It's use as the only image on https://nl.wikinews.org/wiki/Categorie:Migratie_en_Itali%C3%AB is especially bad and completely gratuitous since it in no way illustrates migration as a whole in Italy, only one byproduct of it, and gives a completely distorted view of migration in Italy, which consists almost exclusively of normal, sane people helping migrants. Use of this picture alone is also very bad, sensationalist journalism. If any kind of image dealing with hatred towards migrants and incitement to violence against them is considered newsworthy in a responsible news outlet, it would be something like a picture of a burning refugee reception center or its wounded inhabitants, for example, not a random slogan on a random wall. This slogan and its image here very clearly constitutes incitement to crime and constitutes very real danger if publicly visible even if it may educate some people and thereby do good. It constitutes real danger and is therefore probably illegal in most countries (at least in its current form as a lone illustration and presented without any kind of background information, simply as public incitement to violence). --[[Gebruiker:Espoo|Espoo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Espoo|overleg]]) 17 sep 2019 10:57 (CEST)
:::Its use as the only image on https://nl.wikinews.org/wiki/Categorie:Migratie_en_Itali%C3%AB is especially bad and completely gratuitous since it in no way illustrates migration as a whole in Italy, only one byproduct of it, and gives a completely distorted view of migration in Italy, which consists almost exclusively of normal, sane people helping migrants.
:::Use of this picture alone is also very bad, sensationalist journalism. If any kind of image dealing with hatred towards migrants and incitement to violence against them is considered newsworthy in a responsible news outlet, it would be something like a picture of a burning refugee reception center or its wounded inhabitants, for example, not a random slogan on a random wall.
:::This slogan and its image here very clearly constitutes incitement to crime and constitutes very real danger if publicly visible even if it may educate some people and thereby do good. It constitutes real danger and is therefore probably illegal in most countries (at least in its current form as a lone illustration and presented without any kind of background information, simply as public incitement to violence). --[[Gebruiker:Espoo|Espoo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Espoo|overleg]]) 17 sep 2019 10:57 (CEST)
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